Polygraph

fishhog

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I was just wondering on some of these tx I see where the winner may be subject to testing, but I've never heard of anyone having to take one so is this just a precaution or do they really give them and who pays for it
 

Jmax

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The CBA normally does two a year at least. One is always the classic and any others are random. In the case of the CBA it is paid for out of the funds for the CBA. They have done one so far this year. The thing that many may not think about is they ask questions about, have you ever cheated in a tournament, broken any rules, fished in an area off limits, ex... A person may fail this test for things done in the past. emoBang Not actually from that tournament itself. I took it one year and got so nervous I failed it the first time and had to take it again. You get two tries. I passed it the second time. emoEek Those things are not fun. emoVomit Jmax
 

fishhog

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Does everyone in the club eventually have to take one. IF I where lucky enough to win a tx that required one I'd be a nervous wreck too I'd probably forget my own name lol
 

mocs-tr20

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Jmax - 7/22/2014 9:08 AM

The CBA normally does two a year at least. One is always the classic and any others are random. In the case of the CBA it is paid for out of the funds for the CBA. They have done one so far this year. The thing that many may not think about is they ask questions about, have you ever cheated in a tournament, broken any rules, fished in an area off limits, ex... A person may fail this test for things done in the past. emoBang Not actually from that tournament itself. I took it one year and got so nervous I failed it the first time and had to take it again. You get two tries. I passed it the second time. emoEek Those things are not fun. emoVomit Jmax

We have actually already have done two this year.
 

beetlespin

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tripletdad - 7/22/2014 11:27 AM

cranking the big motor without a lifejacket on would qualify as breaking a rule
how many have done that?

Not really. I have asked this question before and been told the intent of the rule was to have the lifejacket on when you were on plane and running. It's a poorly written rule.
 

Fuzzy

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Work hand in hand with polygraphs for 30 years. I once took 13 in six months. As much as I know about them, I hate them. If questions still arise after taking one, that's where I come in. The legitimacy of its use comes out of the questions that are asked. The finite the question, the more the result can be relied upon. Respect tournaments that have them and I see them used outside the CBA. In fact, one tour had them and the grand champion failed one the first tournament of the following year and never came back. It was given because someone’s conscience got the best of them...there was a reason for the madness. There is some big money abound in these tournaments, but some people just want the notoriety…I never could understand that.
 

Jmax

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I know they have their place but I still hate them. I have had to take three for tournaments and three for work in my years. I got nervous in every one of them but passed them all. I get nervous about thinking about what if I were to fail. emoDoh I try not to think about it but my mind starts that dang "What if?" crap and there I go, getting nervous as can be. emoCrazy Jmax
 

bass1090

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Nice topic here and some great discussion. I have never had to take one...oh wait, I never win LOL.

On a side note -" the easiest lie to remember is the truth "
 

Pointer 78

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Check out antipolygragh.org to see another angle on lie detector tests.
 

Sniperchoke

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So what if they ask u if u have cheated and u not wanting to lie say well I have cranked the outboard without having my life jacket on in other tourneys. Does that disqualify u ? Prob most everyone has done that at some point? Is it at discretion of officers ? What if ur putting your boat on the trailer I have seen many without jackets on?
 

CATCHMAN

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CATCH has had polygraphs a few times. The guy we used has passed away, but he had his own questions and would not let us add to the list. He was a police chief from Alabama and said he had done fishing tournaments for years and didn't need our input to find a cheater. We were pleased with him and his findings in all cases.

Someone asked for a cost for a polygraph. It depends on how many you do at time, but we usually did three and it cost $125 per test.
 

fishhog

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I went to the anti polygraph site that pointer78 mentioned and if you have doubts about testing you'll really have some after looking at that page good info and history of polygraph testing. I'm kinda 50/50 on the subject as to weather it works or not but to me if your gonna cheat in fishing then you just cheat yourself and something that ALWAYS stands out in my mind is Numbers 32:23 that helps keep me honest
 

saltyduck

New member
The questions are very direct at least with the CBA. My intent isn't to cause someone to miss out on $2K because of a minor infraction. The intent is to ensure someone didn't gain a competitive advantage to win the event.

With the CBA we have already had 2 polygraphs this year and have one more scheduled for this year and then we will polygraph the classic.
 

Fuzzy

Member
Anti-polygraph has some good stuff, but its written with an agenda. We can't use a poly results as the "matter of record". What it is used for, just like law enforcement, is to develop leads. I would never determine someone’s fate on the results of a poly. OJ Simpson had a poly and one of my former instructors sat in for the State of California. The poly was set up by the defense team. OJ was asked all of these "round about " questions that were never very direct. The whole point by the defense was to introduce the poly as a means to show non-conclusive results, which is not innocence. My former instructor was there so he could testify for the state. The polygrapher, paid by the defense, never once asked "Did you kill your wife" or "Did you kill Ron Goldman". Questions were framed as "were you involved in the conspiracy to kill these two people". No conspiracy and what two people? Results could get a inconclusive or negative response. Why you can't use them as prosecutorial evidence in most courts.....
 
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